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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Graphic Novels / Ideas For Creative Writing Reply with quote

and what are you going to ask Santa for?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to have xmas lunch with my best friend / ex-boyfriend's ex-wife. I wouldn't mind trying a drawing tablet, there was something else I thought of before but have forgotten now. Oh dear, how will Santa know?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's easy, just write it on a piece of small, lightweight paper . Find somebody with an open fire, get it roaring up and let your letter get carried up the chimney...simple

I'm hoping for a book about Brian Bolland (comic book artist) and a sackful of surprises.
If anyone's short of ideas for themselves, Brian's book 'The Actress and the Bishop' is a must. Great artwork, funny but serious.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bolland-Strips-Brian/dp/0861661508/sr=8-2/qid=1165830543/ref=pd_ka_2/202-5457782-2431003?ie=UTF8&s=books
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my first Christmas on my own. Feel mellow about that at the moment - might be wobbly on the day.

Need to treat myself to something special, but undecided. I could add something to my ever expanding Alan Moore collection. Or there was this giant coffee table book I saw in Borders the other day. Might have been called Cosmos - big, amazing photos of the universe, starting at Earth and gradually working outwards. Very tempted.

Actress and the Bishop sounds interesting (the picture of the cover is in my mind, I know I've seen it somewhere) - guess I'd have to Amazon it, wouldn't I?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm getting Maus and Black hole from my dearest. Not got round to the Alan Moore stuff yet -I'm new to graphic novels. I'd read that he was good but the artwork I've seen hasn't tempted me yet. Where would you recommend I start?

You might get the actress and the bish in a good comic shop. It's a must.

I'm also hoping for Twilight zone vol 3.

- never spent Christmas on my own. Not sure how I'd plan it - would probably go off and climb a mountain and then get a good film on and a big box of chocs later.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say "Black Hole" I'm assuming you're not referring to the Disney film (though it has its virtues)? Is it a very thick, black and white graphic novel?

Alan Moore ... this is tricky, cos, as a writer I'm thrilled by his writing, where you sound like, as an artist, you're looking to be thrilled by visuals? The only thing I know of that he did with Brian Bolland was the Batman story: The Killing Joke, but it's not exactly a stand out example of his writing.

V for Vendetta - Excellent, dark, dystopian story: political vigilante in a 1984 type setting. Artwork by David Lloyd is atmospheric and effective. Easy to get hold of.

Watchmen - Another excellent story. Deconstructing superheroes. Reads like a quirky detective story but then goes off down unexpected tangents. Very intelligent and tightly plotted. Repays rereadings. Clean, colourful art by Dave Gibbons. Easy to get hold of.

Miracleman - A fave of mine. Comes in three volumes. Another superhero deconstruction job. Moore's imagination takes my breath away here. Artist changes part way through, which is a bit jarring and frustrating. Might not be so easy to get hold of, but shouldn't be too bad.

Saga of the Swampthing - save it for the hardcore fans, cos it comes in 11 volumes! Awesome gothic horror mixed with the occasional DC character. Absolutely astounding. Mixture of artists. But you don't want to go there unless you get smitten.

D.R. & Quinch - Alan Moore does funny. A pair of bad boy student aliens who just want to have fun (usually while toting thermonuclear weapons). Just really good fun. Quirky art. fairly easy to get hold of.

The Complete Bojeffries Saga - Hilarious, surreal, sublime saga of an Adams Family type family in suburban Britain in the eighties. So funny, and wonderful idiosyncratic art by Steve Parkhouse. But forget it. If you manage to get it I will come over to your house and rip it from your bloodied corpse (sorry, but a boy's got to do ...)

But he's so prolific. His more recent stuff is also great. If you're an intelligent and discerning reader then you just cannot go wrong. There is NO comics writer who comes close, mainstream or indie, superhero genre or arty social realism, comedy, horror or metaphysical madness.

I like your ideas for a lonesome Cristmas. I'll maybe substitute a coastal walk for a mountain climb.

Right! Off in search of Pot Mash now.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all that Ian - that's a great help. Yep I did mean the graphic novel. Disney disnae do it for me.

Watchmen was one I thought about but the Bojeffries sounds brilliant. I'll let you know (maybe not).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my Pot Mash mission failed - had to settle for a veggie cottage pie.

Popped in the local comic shop. They didn't have The Actress & The Bishop. They did have one sole copy of a big hardback book of Brian Bolland art, which I assume is the one you're after. It looked extremely mouth watering, but they wouldn't open the cellophane for me to look inside ... perhaps if I hadn't been dribbling and drooling so much (the mumbling and moaning might not have helped either).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to break the sad news but:-

Pot Mash
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In the UK, Pot Mash was a brand of mash potato snack, sold by the makers of Pot Noodle. It is a dehydrated instant mash potato with seasoning and accompanied by a sachet of sauce that can be added to taste. Different sauce sachets are included according to the flavour of the Pot Mash. It is packaged in a plastic cup with a foil lid.

Pot Mash is discontinued, but was sold from ca. 1998 - 2000.

However - don't be downhearted - Morrisons, I believe, have picked up the torch and have quite successfully manged to emulate the aforementioned comestible. Not sure what they call it but you'll probably be able to work it out without too much trouble. I suggest the fried onion for beginners.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jen,
Would it be possible to have a specialised dehydrated fastfood section on here?

have you seen this?
http://www.potnoodle.co.uk/play/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Oh ... bugger! Reply with quote

You is playing with my mind, Bro! ... But don't you know I'm already loco?

Ah, cruel fate mocks me once again in my quest for convenient snack satisfaction.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ordered myself a double delight of The Art of Brian Bolland and Bolland Strips! - Both hardback, and Amazon is posting for free cos it's over 25. The Bolland Strips! looks like it's got a lot of Actress & Bish material, including a new 20 page episode Razz along with other solo work he has done. Should get to me for Christmas and make me merry. Still might get myself the Cosmos book though. What the hey, I'm worth it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you won't be disappointed Ian.- Hmm - new 20 page episode - I'll have to investigate that. My copy of The Art of - arrived about a week ago in cello wrap but I managed to restrain myself and let my wife wrap it up - so it's under the tree.

Which makes me think... I'm quite happy to wait for things - the expectation adds to the pleasure, but I know some people can't, and cheat - surreptitiously tearing little holes in the paper and having a peek. Which are you then?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm happy to wait. Only thing is, after examining a wrapped pressie carefully, feeling the weight, checking out the shape and dimensions, my imagination can run away with me. I often imagine something much nicer than what's under the wrapping paper Confused - this imagination of mine can be a curse as well as a blessing. I'm so childish when it comes to pressies.

So, is your interest in comic art quite new, RM? Any other fave artists? A friend of mine recently turned me on to a French artist, Moebius, though it's mostly work from the seventies and eighties I know him for.

Check out the Lambiek comiclopedia for over 8,000 comic artists from around the world ...

http://lambiek.net/artists/index.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - very new - it's the bolland strips that turned me on to it.
I'm always frustrated by the fact that the covers can be very good but the insides are usually very mediocre.
Also I love the sketches and roughs but often another artist does the inking, adds colour and cocks the whole thing up.

Thanks for that link - I'll do some studying..
Oh and call me Richard by the way.
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