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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Notebooks Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These 41 books are just the tip of the iceberg, of course. For somebody who's practically unpublished, I find it hard to comprehend the sheer weight of the paper I have thrown away during the last two weeks. I really don't remember sitting down with a pen anywhere near that often. It's weird.

But what makes a good notebook?

I've got a bit of a fetish for beautiful hardbound notebooks with classy covers. I like to pick them up in stationary shops and caress them, flick through the pages while sniffing them (am I the only one?).

But, of course, these sexy notebooks are a trap. You buy them, take them home, appreciate their beauty, and then find yourself feeling unworthy. You couldn't possibly write anything good enough, something that wouldn't be sullying such fine pages.

No, my notebook of choice is a nice utilitarian A5 that is spiral bound across the top. Small enough to carry around, big enough to actually fit some words on the page, and with the vital feature of being able to rip out pages (either for hole punching and filing or for destroying and burying the ashes).

Notebooks are useless unless they are used. I find it's a good idea to just write some rubbish or scrawl some dreadful doodle on that first page, just to break the spell of the virgin emptiness. Only by filling our notebooks with mud and rubbish can we get to the stage where we sift through them for gold.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And going through old notebooks is a strange and compelling experience.

What the hell was I thinking when I wrote this! What was going on in my world when I drew that!

It brings memories flooding back, but also entire states of mind. And big fat nuggets of inspiration just pop right back up to the surface, fully formed and ready to use again.

We don't realise what inexhaustible supplies of creativity we are when we constantly throw away our unfinished ideas because we don't think they're good enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent thread Ian - all very true - those lovely hardback notebooks - I've been carrying one round for ages and haven't even marked the first page. The cheapies are the best I agree - I'll have to have a rummage. I also had a go at a board game once - I'll see if I can root that one out too.

I agree that they're fantastic things, I love to see workings out, sketches and doodles much more than finished work.

You could perhaps mount them all up in a grid on a big board and call it an installation.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMCrookes wrote:
You could perhaps mount them all up in a grid on a big board and call it an installation.


That would be a hell of a piece. It'd be a baring of the soul greater than anything Tracey Emin's ever managed.

>shudder<

So come on, Richard ... get that lovely notebook out and scrawl some ridiculous doodle on the first page. Sully it! ... Sully it! ... Sully it! ...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a quick rummage and I managed to find one that is just full of my drafts of my christmas verses but it's in totally undecipherable scribble. I found this among it though - a sketch of a woodwork project - new bannisters:-



have to find you a pic of the finished item





and here's the unfinished boardgame - not a note book I know - but anyway.

The idea was to have a celtic knotwork design that changed at every turn of the board.



crap photo - sorry
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey - do the man's talents know no bounds?

And he apologises for a crap photo! Brilliant Smile

Lovely bannisters lad. Really nice.

And that board for the game. Gorgeous. I kept trying to invent a game that would work on a circular chess board (like the one in Star Wars), but I just couldn't get something that was actually fun to play. I'll dig out some of me notebook ideas when I get home.

So was your game playable? What was it called?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never got round to giving it a name. I think it might have been playable but there again, I never fully worked out the rules - just got bogged down in the artwork really. It was just a simple race to the centre but you could find yourself heading in the wrong direction when the board changed. I should have carried on but you know how it is - other things take precedence. Maybe one day - maybe never.

Perhaps somebody could make some suggestions. But there's always the problem of having to promote and market such things which I'm hopeless at - never mind having the funds to do it properly. defeatist - I know

It needs redrawing though too - getting a compromise between the size of the junctions and the paths is tricky.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some notebooks in amongst my memorabilia box. It's where I keep my olde photographs, letters, cards, dancing medals etc. I used the notepads when I was suffering terribly with depression, just after my nervous breakdown, just to scribble down random thoughts and get them out my head. It was a type of unclogging process, which did seem therapeutic, even though as you mention the majority is rubbish.

I recently started going through some of them and transferring any interesting excerpts to my memoirs. It's called Life.doc and contains dates and various email exchanges, letters etc, basically so I have a rough idea of what I was doing when and how my perceptions have changed over the years.

I also wrote a diary as a teenager for a while so I extracted all the good stuff from that and threw the book away. You might have been interested to see that actually; it was full of doodles and I wrote in between them with tiny-weeny writing. Unlike you though, I didn't want to keep it, too embarrassing. It was a cathartic release to let it go.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life.doc sounds fantastic.

We really shouldn't treat our outpourings too lightly, I understand the cathartic clearing out thing - it is good to have a good dump but that's a shame all your doodles have gone Jen.

Over the years, stuff like that becomes important and looking back, stuff you might have thought insignificant acquires a completely different character.

Dancing medals? - any pics?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've got a diary I kept when I was at school, maybe fourteen years old. I've never read it since because I'm sure it would make me cringe until I pulled a muscle, but I'll read it one day, maybe when I'm about sixty and I'm wise enough to look gently on my younger self Smile

Or maybe not ... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is fascinating stuff.

I think I've got a different perspective here. I spent quiet literally most of my life not being creative. I wanted to be - I tried drawing, watercolour, playing music and although I could do these things I wasn't any good at them. Not good enough to be in any way satisfying. I spent a LOT of time composing bellringing 'music' which is a purely mathematical exercise, but a bit esoteric to say the least. Then someone wrote a computer program which did it all for you...
It's only in the last 18 months that I've finally found something that I can do and that's my photography. I don't think I'm very good but at last I'm good enough to create something worth keeping.

So, I've got no notebooks - and with that I've no embarrassing past but also no little gems to rediscover.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never too late to start creating an embarrassing past, Col. Smile

I reckon you could be creative by joining your photography with your creative writing.

I bought myself a copy of The Ode Less Travelled the other day, by Stephen Fry, in which he expounds on poetry writing. Rule three of his three rules on reading it is that you must carry a notebook with you at all times.

I've always wanted to write good poetry and I've always written truly terrible stuff. And this isn't false modesty. I'm happy to say that I'm capable of writing a decent prose story on occassion, but my poetry almost always sucks, big time.

I think I'm gonna try again though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Moore wrote:
Never too late to start creating an embarrassing past, Col. Smile


I'm already well served in that department, thanks. I just never wrote it down Razz

Ian Moore wrote:
The Ode Less Travelled .


What a cracking title!

Ian Moore wrote:

I've always wanted to write good poetry and I've always written truly terrible stuff. And this isn't false modesty. I'm happy to say that I'm capable of writing a decent prose story on occassion, but my poetry almost always sucks, big time.

I think I'm gonna try again though.


Maybe your move and new circumstances will help.
I always start bravely enough but run out of steam well before the end. We are still talking about poetry here.

Hey, and thanks for the hint about my creative writing. I really need to work on that. If only there were about 36 hours to the day...
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